Kim Kardashian is closing out 2022 with more candid confessions, sitting down with Gwyneth Paltrow to talk about her past and present love life.
“I feel, honestly, [that] my last marriage was my first real [one],” the 42-year-old Kardashians star said on the “Goop” podcast on Tuesday, December 27. “The first one, I just don’t know what was happening. The second one, I felt like I wanted to be married so badly because all my friends were at that place and that’s where I should have been.”
Kardashian was previously married to Damon Thomas from 2000 to 2004, to Kris Humphries for 72 days (legally from 2011 to 2013) and to Kanye West from 2014 to 2021. The SKKN creator and the rapper, 44, who share four kids — North, 9, Saint, 6, Chicago, 4, and Psalm, 3 — finalized their divorce earlier this year.
“I have this fantasy in my head, like, ‘Fourth time’s a charm — it’s gonna work out,’” she added of walking down the aisle again.
After Kardashian joked that she “clearly” hasn’t found a man like her late father, Robert, Paltrow, 50, asked, “Are the guys that you’ve been attracted to — would you say fundamentally different [than your dad]?”
“Yes,” Kardashian responded. “You always look at your dad as the most unique, the most special, the smartest person. There’s definitely qualities for sure of that I’ve seen from people or what I wanted from people in the past. But that should be the standard.”
While the Hulu star said she’s happily single and wants to stay that way for “a few years,” Kardashian responded “kind of” when the actress asked whether she has a “flirt going on the side” via text.
“I do,” Kardashian replied as Paltrow joked, “That will get you through a cold winter.”
This is the second candid podcast from Kardashian released this week. The Skims founder got emotional during an interview while speaking about how “f—king hard” it is to coparent with West — who has come under fire for antisemitic comments in recent months — on the “Angie Martinez IRL” podcast, which dropped on Monday, December 26.
“You ask me about the grace. One day, my kids will thank me for not sitting here and bashing their dad when I could. Of course all the crazy s–t … it kills me for my family,” Kardashian said. “If they don’t know things that are being said, why would I ever bring that energy to them? That is real, heavy, grownup s—t that they are not ready to deal with. When they are, we will have those conversations. One day my kids will thank me for not sitting here and bashing their dad. I could.”
She also reflected on her post-divorce romance with Pete Davidson, which ended over the summer after nearly one year of dating, and how West could affect her future relationships.
“It was just so new. I didn’t know what dating was for so long. I’d been in a relationship for almost 15 years, 12 years, something like that. I don’t know, there’s a part of me that’s like, ‘Oh, my God, is everyone going to be scared because I don’t have the easiest ex?’” Kardashian said. “I don’t think that’s fair to ever put someone in a situation. … But then there’s a side of me that’s like, ‘Wait, what? Why would I ever have to live that way?’”
Scroll through for more from Kardashian’s conversation with Paltrow:
Kim Kardashian is closing out 2022 with more candid confessions, sitting down with Gwyneth Paltrow to talk about her past and present love life.
“I feel, honestly, [that] my last marriage was my first real [one],” the 42-year-old Kardashians star said on the “Goop” podcast on Tuesday, December 27. “The first one, I just don’t know what was happening. The second one, I felt like I wanted to be married so badly because all my friends were at that place and that’s where I should have been.”
Kardashian was previously married to Damon Thomas from 2000 to 2004, to Kris Humphries for 72 days (legally from 2011 to 2013) and to Kanye West from 2014 to 2021. The SKKN creator and the rapper, 44, who share four kids — North, 9, Saint, 6, Chicago, 4, and Psalm, 3 — finalized their divorce earlier this year.
“I have this fantasy in my head, like, ‘Fourth time’s a charm — it’s gonna work out,’” she added of walking down the aisle again.
After Kardashian joked that she “clearly” hasn’t found a man like her late father, Robert, Paltrow, 50, asked, “Are the guys that you’ve been attracted to — would you say fundamentally different [than your dad]?”
“Yes,” Kardashian responded. “You always look at your dad as the most unique, the most special, the smartest person. There’s definitely qualities for sure of that I’ve seen from people or what I wanted from people in the past. But that should be the standard.”
While the Hulu star said she’s happily single and wants to stay that way for “a few years,” Kardashian responded “kind of” when the actress asked whether she has a “flirt going on the side” via text.
“I do,” Kardashian replied as Paltrow joked, “That will get you through a cold winter.”
This is the second candid podcast from Kardashian released this week. The Skims founder got emotional during an interview while speaking about how “f—king hard” it is to coparent with West — who has come under fire for antisemitic comments in recent months — on the “Angie Martinez IRL” podcast, which dropped on Monday, December 26.
“You ask me about the grace. One day, my kids will thank me for not sitting here and bashing their dad when I could. Of course all the crazy s–t … it kills me for my family,” Kardashian said. “If they don’t know things that are being said, why would I ever bring that energy to them? That is real, heavy, grownup s—t that they are not ready to deal with. When they are, we will have those conversations. One day my kids will thank me for not sitting here and bashing their dad. I could.”
She also reflected on her post-divorce romance with Pete Davidson, which ended over the summer after nearly one year of dating, and how West could affect her future relationships.
“It was just so new. I didn’t know what dating was for so long. I’d been in a relationship for almost 15 years, 12 years, something like that. I don’t know, there’s a part of me that’s like, ‘Oh, my God, is everyone going to be scared because I don’t have the easiest ex?’” Kardashian said. “I don’t think that’s fair to ever put someone in a situation. … But then there’s a side of me that’s like, ‘Wait, what? Why would I ever have to live that way?’”
Scroll through for more from Kardashian’s conversation with Paltrow:
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Kim Wants to Get Married Again
“I have a lot of girlfriends that have been married, don’t like the experience of it the ending of it, and don’t want to go through that again. So are fine with a forever partner. … I would want a marriage, but I’m so happy to take my time,” Kardashian explained, adding that for now she’s “on a good solo mission” and “going to soak up every minute of it.”
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Kim Isn’t Ruling Out More Kids
Kardashian told Paltrow that she will “never say never” to a fifth child.
“I’m obviously right at the end of that conversation,” the reality star explained. “I would have to have someone in my life for a while in order to make that decision. … So, whatever’s meant to be will be.”
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Bringing Her Love Life on ‘The Kardashians’
“If you’re dating someone, they obviously know who you are and that you have a show, but I don’t think they’re expecting [me to say], ‘Let me bring a camera.’ and I want to get to know someone first. I want to, like, privately get to know someone. What if I go on a few dates and hate this person and would never want them to be on the show? That’s a serious decision to even talk about it,” Kardashian said. “I was in a relationship before, and I decided to talk about it. So I think that the tricky part is once you’re photographed and you’re seen out and you don’t talk about it and you don’t show it … then you’re hiding something.”
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The Difference Between ‘The Kardashians’ and ‘KUWTK’
“I think the E! audience just liked a different — maybe a jokey — side. We’re still like that, but if I talked about my law school journey, that would bore them to death. And [Hulu is] just, like, completely us, more documentary style, more of what we want to do,” she said. “But then that gives me the beauty to have boundaries. And to take my time [showing a relationship], even if at some point, I’ll get there. But that’s on my time of when I want to share that. And I think that as we’ve grown up, we’ve realized the boundaries that we need, just in life of what we share with the media.”
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Why North Doesn’t Have TikTok Comments
“Even within my family, how Kourtney operates, how Khloé operates, how Kylie … we always say every family is different. So whether it’s the snacks that we’re allowed to eat [or with social media], it is hard because all of our cousins — my nieces and nephews — they’re all best friends with my kids. They’re all the same ages. So if Penelope has a TikTok, North wants a TikTok. And all the girls at school have a TikTok. However, I have made a rule with their dad about it,” Kardashian explained. “He’s not happy about that. I respect that. [So North’s TikTok] can only be on my phone. … We don’t do comments. … She’s not scrolling on it.”
Kardashian added that North “forces” her to do one or two TikToks every morning.
